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In Conversation with Annabel Tully

Art, children, nursing and beating breast cancer twice — nothing is off the table when the former executive producer of the ABC’s Country Hour speaks to Annabel Tully about her life on a remote south-west Queensland property.

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Annabel and her husband Stephen own the 73,000 hectare Bunginderry Station, 65 kilometres north west of Quilpie.

PHOTOGRAPHY KATRINA LEHMANN

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"I know it sounds a bit clichéd, but I love finding beauty in that starkness or being able to find something good out of a really horrible situation."

PHOTOGRAPHY KATRINA LEHMANN

A ten-minute scramble gets me to the summit of Baldy Top, just out of Quilpie in south-west Queensland. The panoramic view across the mulga country is spectacular. As the sun sets to the west the red of Baldy Top contrasts with the blue of the flat-topped jump-ups in the distance.

It is rugged country, where harsh drought and wild dogs have taken a toll on those who raise sheep and cattle. But for landscape artist, nurse and mother-of-five Annabel Tully, this is home. She and her husband Stephen own the 73,000 hectare Bunginderry Station, 65 kilometres north west of Quilpie.
As a rural reporter with the ABC, I interviewed Stephen many times in his agripolitical capacity. I first met Annabel when she had an art exhibition in Brisbane and spoke of her battle with breast cancer. Her paintings spoke to me; they depicted the harsh beauty of the country. Across the bottom of one of her works was painted the word ‘Resilience’.

It is tough being diagnosed with breast cancer once, but twice is more than tough. And for Annabel it meant spending months a thousand kilometres away from home, from Stephen and her young family — today Lachlan is 20, Sophia, 19, Harriet, 16, Hugo, 15, and Eve is 14 — while she got treatment in Brisbane.

But Annabel is a self-described “agvocate”, who understands that problems are there to be solved, art is therapy, and family and community are the most important things in her life.

Annabel, tell us a little bit about Bunginderry station. 

It’s pretty special to us. It’s the place where Stephen grew up. I was welcomed into that family with open arms, which is really lovely, and we’ve continued to grow our own family here. It’s 80,000 hectares, mixed country, sort of open, rolling, stony boree country that grows beautiful herbage in winter. And then we’ve got classic channel country that floods, going back into those beautiful jump-ups, and the red, creamy colours of the grey range, and plenty of mulga as well. It’s a really well-balanced block. Stephen’s parents did a really good job of buying smaller blocks to amalgamate to create the Bunginderry we know now.

The 2000s have not been terribly kind to producers in western Queensland. I know cattle, sheep and wool prices have been good, but it’s been a difficult time. What’s the situation there now? Has the drought broken in your part of the world?

We’ve worked very hard in the past five years to make sure Bunginderry is less impacted by drought. “The family that fences together, stays together” is my new catch cry! We’ve put up more than 330 kilometres of exclusion fencing around our property and that’s made a huge difference. It allows us to manage our feed, and balance where we put our stock and water infrastructure to ensure we make the most of what little rain we get. Bunginderry is about 80 kilometres from one corner to another, so from Brisbane to the Gold Coast, and you can have a storm in Brisbane but no rain on the Gold Coast, so we need that ability to be able to manage stock. We certainly haven’t had our average rainfall in the past five years; however, we’ve managed to have stock on agistment, we’ve helped out other people who didn’t have options and now we’re just breeding our way out of it again. I wouldn’t say the drought’s broken — we’ve still got a long way to go — but we’ve certainly made improvements to make sure it’s not as devastating.

I believe you really cut back on stock numbers during the drought. How low did you get? 

We got to about 50 per cent capacity: I’m talking 3000 head instead of 7000. So we had room to be able to spread stock out. We had a bit of trouble with wild dogs, in terms of where we could and couldn’t put stock. Even though we’ve got the fencing we’ve still got pests and we’re trying to get on top of that. 

What does drought mean for you mentally, when it’s day after day of dry conditions and reducing stock numbers? 

You’re very much on edge. Every single day there’s a decision that has to be made: there’s no procrastination, there’s no “We’ll have a think about that”, you’re making decisions on a daily basis to ensure your stock stay alive. I liken it to working twice as many hours for half the pay. Those pressures mount up on you. We both take responsibility for the education of our children. We’ve got three at boarding school and two doing tertiary study and the thought of pulling them out of that education was the only thing we couldn’t stomach. You can eat skimpily, you can cut corners but making sure our kids had a really smooth education was number one for us. And then just being really open and honest about how crappy the situation was, talking about it and keeping it real. We’ve never hidden any appointment for me. So I went through the process. I was there on my own at the time because Stephen was still at home working. Long story short: Sophia was born on the Friday and the following Tuesday I went into surgery. I had a week to heal and then I was straight into chemo. The cancer was small but it was quite aggressive so they moved quite quickly on it. It was a pretty whirlwind situation. I always say Stephen and Sophia have a very close bond because he brought her up. I wasn’t around those first few months.

It sounds like all the decisions are joint decisions between you, Stephen and the kids. How hard is that, and how important is it that you do that?

You have to share the burden, particularly when you’re in that state of hypersensitivity. You need someone to bounce ideas off because sometimes you’re not quite seeing things straight. And we’re open to all ideas. We’re talking to our neighbours, we’re talking to our friends, asking them how they’re managing certain problems, what they’re doing, what ideas they’ve got: that constant problem solving is important. Keeping the kids included makes us feel that it’s still worth it, that we’re still working for something.

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Stephen is the fifth generation on Bunginderry. Is there a sense that you have a responsibility to the past as well as the future, to maintain and grow and survive during times of drought?

Absolutely. There are so many stories, like the one about the uncle who went out on Christmas Day to chop mulga with an axe to feed his stock. It gives you faith that if they can do it, then we can, too. There’s no reason why we can’t. We’ve got that history that proves it’s possible so, yeah, there is a sense of commitment and connection to the past and the responsibility to be able keep going. It gives you faith. They did it much tougher than us: they didn’t come home to an air-conditioned house!

Put your painter’s hat on. How does the landscape change during drought? Obviously there’s devastation, but do you see beauty in the changing landscape?

When you’re an artist you always have your painter’s hat on. It’s as if I’ve got my blinkers on because I don’t see the devastation when I’m looking at it through my artist’s eyes, I see the beautiful red rich colours; the oranges, the creams, the beiges and the browns. That’s what I love to paint. That bright green that comes through isn’t easy on the painter’s palette, not on mine anyway, because it’s not where I live. Maybe if I lived in the rainforest, it would be a different story. My palette is all the lovely soft greys and pale blues and pinks and reds, so in drought it’s actually spectacular from that point of view. Those red, rocky outcrops will always be there, the gibber plains will always be there, so there’s certainly beauty in the starkness of it.

I think painting helped you through a couple of bouts of breast cancer. You were 38 weeks pregnant with your second child, Sophia, when you discovered you had breast cancer.

Lachlan would have been about 18 months old and, because I’d had trouble breastfeeding him, I decided to be proactive and visit a lactation specialist to see if I could get some help. Lachlan had been an emergency caesarean so I went down to Brisbane to be with family a bit earlier and get that medical support. It was a Tuesday, and I explained to the lactation specialist that I had a small lump in my right breast and I thought that it might have been a blocked milk duct. She said it was possible, but she made a doctor’s appointment for me. So I went through the process. I was there on my own at the time because Stephen was still at home working. Long story short: Sophia was born on the Friday and the following Tuesday I went into surgery. I had a week to heal and then I was straight into chemo. The cancer was small but it was quite aggressive so they moved quite quickly on it. It was a pretty whirlwind situation. I always say Stephen and Sophia have a very close bond because he brought her up. I wasn’t around those first few months.

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Cushions from Tully Textiles turn art into soft furnishings.

PHOTOGRAPHY KATRINA LEHMANN

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Annabel’s artist’s palette uses the soft greys, pale blues, pinks and reds of the landscape around Bunginderry.

PHOTOGRAPHY KATRINA LEHMANN

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Did you stay in Brisbane?

No, we went home with our beautiful little family and I went back on my own every three months. I used to leave my two young children — my newborn baby and toddler Lachlan — and get on that plane. It’s a really weird feeling. Anyone who has experienced those early stages of cancer will know that you actually feel well, you don’t feel like there’s anything wrong with you, you just know there’s this insidious thing inside your body that you’ve got to get rid of or you’ll die. It’s a really bizarre feeling as a 29-year-old who’s never had anything wrong with her; it was really quite confronting. I used to get on the plane in Quilpie surrounded by mulga and red dirt, feeling completely fine, having to leave my newborn baby and go down to Brisbane for treatment, and then come home feeling revolting and be thrown into bed for the next couple of weeks. And then you start it again. That’s what it was like.

What made you get out of bed?

I had two kids to look after, I didn’t have a choice. I’m forever grateful that I was in that situation where I did have the kids to make me get out of bed. When there’s a baby crying in the next room, I couldn’t not. So that was actually very good and a very big part of me coping. I’m sure I sat on the floor and cried because kids wouldn’t stop crying and I couldn’t either, but it helped me make a new normal.

And you spoke about community support in times of drought. Is Quilpie a good community? Was there support for you there?

Absolutely. I had a couple of ladies ring me at one stage to ask, “How can we help? Do you want us to cook you dinner?” and I said, “Can you just come? Come and have lunch with me and make me feel normal for a little while.” More often than not the grocery shopping would come out on the mail run and my mail lady would bring it in and help me unpack my groceries. There’d always be a packet of lolly snakes in there for the kids. And at the other end, my family always scooped me up off the plane in Brisbane when I went down for my treatment, so I was really lucky. Stephen’s mum and dad were still home at that stage, too, so my community spread a long way. I was very, very lucky in that sense.

That was your first bout of breast cancer, and it returned after the birth of your fifth child.

I got the all clear after the first round of cancer and we decided we wanted more children; I always said I wanted six. So we had Harriet, Hugo and Eve and thought that was enough. I’d had the magic five years [cancer free], we’d popped the champagne, and we had a really busy little family. Life was fairly normal. It was at about the seven-year mark, when Eve was about two, that I was diagnosed the second time around. I had a lump in my breast — the same breast, interestingly enough — which was benign but we’d been monitoring it every six months for years. Even though I was past the five-year mark I was still having my six-monthly screens, and at one point the lump went from the size of a pea to the size of an orange! So we had to move fairly quickly. This time I did chemo first to reduce the size of the tumour so they could contain it when they removed it. We also decided I would have a bilateral [double] mastectomy: we decided on being proactive because my history suggested it might happen again. My ovaries were removed as well. So, at age 37, that threw me into menopause. Cancer certainly sculpted my life and changed it, as well as my husband’s and my kids’ lives. We’re all fiercely independent
as a result. It’s quite extraordinary, but sometimes I think they don’t know how to be any other way, because they’ve had to be independent.

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“I know it sounds a bit clichéd, but I love finding beauty in that starkness or being able to find something good out of a really horrible situation. Being able to CREATE something beautiful… that someone else enjoys, gives me great joy.”

One of the first paintings I ever saw of yours had ‘Resilience’ in script on the bottom of it. Now, I know you loathe that word, but what does it mean to you? And how did art and painting get you through these periods in your life?

I hate the word resilience because it’s often used in the wrong context or can be used quite flippantly. It actually means being able to adapt to change. I think resilience is one of the best traits you can have. If you have the openness and the ability to be able to adapt to change, you will always be evolving, educating, moving with the times, growing and learning from what you already know and being able to embrace what comes on board. A lot of my paintings are quite bare and are drought driven. As I said, I love that palette of the oranges and the browns. I know it sounds a bit clichéd, but I love finding beauty in that starkness or being able to find something good out of a really horrible situation. Art and being able to create something beautiful despite the fact that I’m at a watering point surrounded by a bag of bones, and being able to paint something that someone else enjoys, gives me great joy.

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